Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast · 4 June 2026 · 76 min

Reality: The Final Eval — Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund of Andon Labs

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In this episode, Lukas Petersson and Axel Backlund from Andon Labs discuss their innovative AI evaluation benchmarks that focus on real-world agent performance, including their Project Vend vending machine business and multi-agent systems. They explore the challenges of long-horizon AI evaluations, agent autonomy, aggressive behaviors in models, and the future of AI-driven businesses and robotics.

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